diff --git a/packages/compiler/src/backend/stack-observations.test.ts b/packages/compiler/src/backend/stack-observations.test.ts
index a09f7f58d..0e1178ce9 100644
--- a/packages/compiler/src/backend/stack-observations.test.ts
+++ b/packages/compiler/src/backend/stack-observations.test.ts
@@ -67,6 +67,23 @@ test("a stack read on a checked-dynamic value is observed", () => {
   expect(observesStacks(mod([fn("%main", [read("message")])]))).toBe(false);
 });
 
+test("a computed key reads the stack when the program spells it", () => {
+  const value: IrExpr = { loc, kind: "varRef", localId: "d", type: DYN };
+  const key: IrExpr = { loc, kind: "varRef", localId: "k", type: STRING };
+  const computed: IrStmt = {
+    loc,
+    kind: "exprStmt",
+    expr: { loc, kind: "dynKeyGet", value, key, type: DYN },
+  };
+  const spelled: IrStmt = {
+    loc,
+    kind: "exprStmt",
+    expr: { loc, kind: "strLit", value: "stack", type: STRING },
+  };
+  expect(observesStacks(mod([fn("%main", [computed, spelled])]))).toBe(true);
+  expect(observesStacks(mod([fn("%main", [computed])]))).toBe(false);
+});
+
 test("programs without stack reads are not", () => {
   expect(observesStacks(mod([fn("%main", [call("helper")]), fn("helper", [ret])]))).toBe(false);
 });
diff --git a/packages/compiler/src/backend/stack-observations.ts b/packages/compiler/src/backend/stack-observations.ts
index 4894e927a..cc6d109e4 100644
--- a/packages/compiler/src/backend/stack-observations.ts
+++ b/packages/compiler/src/backend/stack-observations.ts
@@ -13,15 +13,34 @@ import { writesPublished } from "./publication.js";
 /** Lib calls that read a captured stack trace. */
 const STACK_READS: ReadonlySet<string> = new Set(["error.stack"]);
 
-/** A typed `error.stack` read, or a `stack` read on a checked-dynamic
- * value, which reaches an error's own `stack` accessor. */
-function readsStack(expr: IrExpr): boolean {
+/** A typed `error.stack` read, or a read on a checked-dynamic value that
+ * can reach an error's own `stack` accessor: the constant key `stack`, or
+ * a computed key when `computedKeys` (the program spells "stack", so a
+ * computed key can name it). A key the program assembles from other
+ * strings or from data it reads keeps the static answer. */
+function readsStack(expr: IrExpr, computedKeys: boolean): boolean {
   if (expr.kind === "libCall") return STACK_READS.has(expr.fn);
-  return expr.kind === "dynKeyGet" && expr.key.kind === "strLit" && expr.key.value === "stack";
+  if (expr.kind !== "dynKeyGet") return false;
+  if (expr.key.kind === "strLit") return expr.key.value === "stack";
+  return computedKeys;
 }
 
-function containsStackRead(fn: IrFunction): boolean {
-  return !everyStmtList(fn.body, { stmt: () => true, expr: (expr) => !readsStack(expr) });
+/** Whether the module contains the string literal "stack". */
+function spellsStack(mod: IrModule): boolean {
+  return mod.functions.some(
+    (fn) =>
+      !everyStmtList(fn.body, {
+        stmt: () => true,
+        expr: (expr) => !(expr.kind === "strLit" && expr.value === "stack"),
+      }),
+  );
+}
+
+function containsStackRead(fn: IrFunction, computedKeys: boolean): boolean {
+  return !everyStmtList(fn.body, {
+    stmt: () => true,
+    expr: (expr) => !readsStack(expr, computedKeys),
+  });
 }
 
 /** Visit every expression of `body` that execution can reach: statements
@@ -46,7 +65,8 @@ function visitLiveExprs(body: IrStmt[], visit: (expr: IrExpr) => void): void {
  * and those reads must not cost every call of the program a frame.
  * Programs without any stack read answer false without the walk. */
 export function observesStacks(mod: IrModule): boolean {
-  if (!mod.functions.some(containsStackRead)) return false;
+  const computedKeys = spellsStack(mod);
+  if (!mod.functions.some((fn) => containsStackRead(fn, computedKeys))) return false;
   const byName = new Map(mod.functions.map((fn) => [fn.name, fn]));
   const classNames = new Set((mod.classes ?? []).map((cls) => cls.name));
   const pending: string[] = [...moduleFunctionReferences(mod)];
@@ -70,7 +90,7 @@ export function observesStacks(mod: IrModule): boolean {
     const fn = byName.get(name);
     if (fn === undefined) continue;
     visitLiveExprs(fn.body, (expr) => {
-      if (readsStack(expr)) observed = true;
+      if (readsStack(expr, computedKeys)) observed = true;
       if (expr.kind === "call" && !reached.has(expr.callee)) pending.push(expr.callee);
       const referenced = exprFunctionReference(expr);
       if (referenced !== undefined && !reached.has(referenced)) pending.push(referenced);
diff --git a/packages/runtime/src/scr_json.c b/packages/runtime/src/scr_json.c
index e41c2c37d..04fbe038b 100644
--- a/packages/runtime/src/scr_json.c
+++ b/packages/runtime/src/scr_json.c
@@ -6754,6 +6754,8 @@ static ScrDyn *scr_error_stack_get_call(ScrClosure *closure, ScrDyn *const *args
   if (!error) return scr_dyn_retain(scr_dyn_undefined());
   ScrStr *stack = scr_error_stack(error);
   scr_error_release(error);
+  /* A name or message getter that throws leaves its exception pending. */
+  if (!stack) return NULL;
   ScrDyn *out = scr_dyn_new_str(stack);
   scr_str_release(stack);
   return out;
@@ -10954,7 +10956,17 @@ static ScrDyn *scr_sc_clone(const ScrDyn *v, const ScrScParent *up, ScrDynRegion
     ScrDyn *out = scr_dyn_new_obj();
     for (size_t i = 0; i < v->v.obj.len; i++) {
       const ScrDynEntry *e = &v->v.obj.entries[i];
-      if (scr_dyn_entry_is_error_stack(e)) continue;
+      if (scr_dyn_entry_is_error_stack(e)) {
+        /* A stack that was already formatted copies as a non-enumerable
+         * data property; an unformatted one has nothing to copy. */
+        ScrError *error = scr_errdyn_err_of(v);
+        if (error && error->stack) {
+          scr_dyn_obj_set(out, "stack", 5, scr_dyn_new_str(error->stack));
+          out->v.obj.entries[out->v.obj.len - 1].enumerable = false;
+        }
+        scr_error_release(error);
+        continue;
+      }
       ScrDyn *c = scr_sc_clone(e->value, &self, region);
       if (c == NULL) {
         scr_dyn_release(out);
diff --git a/tests/corpus/5916-dyn-error-stack-property.ts b/tests/corpus/5916-dyn-error-stack-property.ts
index 6198e839c..2e1b42ef3 100644
--- a/tests/corpus/5916-dyn-error-stack-property.ts
+++ b/tests/corpus/5916-dyn-error-stack-property.ts
@@ -124,3 +124,24 @@ function makeSubclass(): any {
   return dyn(new PlainSubclass("deep"));
 }
 console.log("subclass frames", (makeSubclass().stack as string).includes("at makeSubclass"));
+
+const formatted = dyn(new Error("formatted"));
+console.log("formatted before clone", firstLine(formatted.stack));
+console.log("clone keeps a formatted stack", firstLine(dyn(structuredClone(formatted)).stack));
+
+class GrumpyError extends Error {
+  override get name(): string {
+    throw new Error("no name today");
+  }
+}
+try {
+  console.log("throwing name getter", firstLine(dyn(new GrumpyError("grumpy")).stack));
+} catch (error) {
+  console.log("throwing name getter threw", (error as Error).message);
+}
+
+function readKey(target: any, key: string): unknown {
+  return target[key];
+}
+const computed = readKey(inner(), ["sta", "ck"].join("")) as string;
+console.log("computed key", firstLine(computed), computed.includes("at inner"));
diff --git a/tests/corpus/6400-dyn-error-stack-property-js.js b/tests/corpus/6400-dyn-error-stack-property-js.js
index e46db41eb..f0f666103 100644
--- a/tests/corpus/6400-dyn-error-stack-property-js.js
+++ b/tests/corpus/6400-dyn-error-stack-property-js.js
@@ -124,3 +124,25 @@ function makeSubclass() {
   return dyn(new PlainSubclass("deep"));
 }
 console.log("subclass frames", makeSubclass().stack.includes("at makeSubclass"));
+
+const formatted = dyn(new Error("formatted"));
+console.log("formatted before clone", firstLine(formatted.stack));
+console.log("clone keeps a formatted stack", firstLine(dyn(structuredClone(formatted)).stack));
+
+class GrumpyError extends Error {
+  /** @returns {string} */
+  get name() {
+    throw new Error("no name today");
+  }
+}
+try {
+  console.log("throwing name getter", firstLine(dyn(new GrumpyError("grumpy")).stack));
+} catch (error) {
+  console.log("throwing name getter threw", error.message);
+}
+
+function readKey(target, key) {
+  return target[key];
+}
+const computed = readKey(inner(), ["sta", "ck"].join(""));
+console.log("computed key", firstLine(computed), computed.includes("at inner"));